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Scanner choice and page size


I'm new to SS and digitizing music. I'm trying different ways of scanning music from books. Using my phone works well if I can get things flat enough. This really depends on the binding and how thick the book is.

A flatbed scanner can work really well but is difficult to line up, which requires a lot of trial and error. Most music is a bit large so has to fit just right within the scanning area.

I'm considering cutting the pages from the binding. I can rebind later with spiral binding which has the advantage that the book will lay flat. If I do this, then it's an option to use a scanner that can feed pages. This brings me to two questions.

1) It seems all modestly priced scanners that will auto feed have a specification of max page width 8.5 inches. But I wonder if this is the hard limit on physical page size, or perhaps is just the limit on the scan area and the paper itself can be somewhat larger?

2) Does SS work with auto-feeding scanners? And if so, does it also work with scanners that can scan both sides of a page at one time (duplex)?

I'd be interested in hearing what scanners SS users are using and their technique with regard to scanning music from typical music books that seem to be about 12 x 9 inches.
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Re: Scanner choice and page size


I use a flatbed multi-purpose, a Canon MF4350d. I've never been happy with the auto feed, and it doesn't do 2-sided scans.

1) I think that's a limit of the scan area. You can put an original of any size on the flatbed!

2) As I said, my scanner doesn't do that, so I don't know. My gut feeling is that the fewer potential problems you introduce, the better off you are!

You can (and should) straighten crooked pages in SmartScore's Image Editor, before the Recognize Scan process.

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At the moment, I've decided to unbind my music and then scan with my flatbed scanner. I don't have an auto feeding scanner, and I'm not sure if any modestly priced ones can handle pages 9" wide anyway.

It took me less than an hour to scan in a 100 page book this way. Including creating separate PDF's for each song in the book.

Note: I'm scanning to PDF, not directly into SS X2. The reason is I'm not going to recognize all my music with SS X2, but I want it all digitized. The PDF's I can create are better looking and smaller than the TIF files SS X2 generates.

I can then use SS X2 as need if I want to convert a PDF.

I spent a lot of time playing around with different scanner settings and can get pretty similar results going to PDF compared to directly into SS X2. Though the SS X2 "Auto" mode actually does seem to give the most reliable music recognition.

I found weird things though, like settings that give the best music recognition seems to give some of the worst text recognition.

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Most scanners I've seen, both flatbed and autofeed, are set up to do max of 8.5 x 14 inch. Up until last year I had an HP large format multifunction that would scan up to 11 x 17, but it did it in pieces and then stitched the images together. I do use a double sided autofeed scanner (epson), but it's limited to max width of 8.5, and I find it more useful to scan to pdf, and then let SS-X2 do the conversion to tif. Never got it to work reliably with SS-X2. The epson is great for digitizing octavos for use on my tablet.

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