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Change voice of notes


In my scanned score, each system has 2 tracks and usually 2 voices in each track.

In track 1, sometimes the second voice has no notes, but sopranos and altos are supposed to sing in unison.

I would like to change the scanned piece so the alto singer will hear the unison, and her part when there are 2 parts.

I tried changing the voice color for the unison section, but that did not work.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Change voice of notes


I haven't been doing this for a while, but what it sounds like to me is that you have an SA/TB score (two tracks?) with two staves in each system. But in the SA staff the two voices are in unison. Did I get that right?

SSX demands that each separate part, even if combined on a single staff, be complete rhythmically. So each part in the unison sections either has to have separate notes (perhaps on the same tone) or "rests" assuming you don't want separate midi sounds for the two parts (perhaps "Hidden" if you don't want to seem them). If so, the solution is a bit labor intensive, especially if the whole score is like that. My past experience involved scores where there were only short sections of unison voices. You will have to add (singly or perhaps by copy/paste--that's where my memory fails)notes for the missing voice, change their "Voice" assignment,and "Join" them to the same midi event for their equivalent original notes (for rhythmic consistency in the measure).

One concept you might try if the majority of the score is unison in these parts is to essentially split the two "parts" into separate staves (using the concepts explained in the Using SSX pdf manual for extracting parts), copying the notes from the one they're recognized in and pasting them into the other staff. Once you have both parts fully defined, then go back and combine them.

Like I said, it's been quite a while since I last used SSX (the choir I used to do this sort of stuff for practically every week totally imploded after major changes to our parish music ministry by our then new pastor), especially for something like this. Perhaps someone who is still currently facing such challenges will provide some more illuminating advice.

If not, post back with any major problems and I'll try to help, but with Holy Week and Easter rapidly approaching for the group I'm currently just playing for, and a new grand-daughter, I don't have a lot of free time for the next couple of weeks, but I suspect your problem arises from the same urgency. So I'll try to do what I can to help out.

It's a bit late after a very long day, so I can only hope that I've made at least a bit of sense and perhaps given you a couple of leads to follow.

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Thanks for the ideas.

I ended up doing a copy and paste. That created the alto voice in most measures identical to the unison. Then I had to delete the notes in the bad measures and enter each part.

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I'm glad you found a solution that worked.

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If you're working from a hymnal-style score, unisons are a problem. It's easy to split the chorded notes into 2 voices, but if a note is single, you have to enter it in the other voice. (I've already been over this very question with tech support.)

Since I only do my preliminary work in SS, and finish in Finale, duplicating or entering the other voice there is pretty easy, but still, some of it just has to be done the hard way.

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I run into this a lot on choir pieces. If there are only a few notes shared, I click on the second note (Alto) color, add the appropriate note length just below the existing Soprano note, then hold the shift and drag the new note to overlap the original note.

If there are extended shared parts (where there are already black and red parts on similar staffs), I just click the green note and change all the shared notes to green. Usually you need to click the first such note in each measure. In measures with both black and green notes you may want to change rests back to black to avoid pink "error" shading.

In the playback console make the green voice the same instrument, volume and pan as the black and red voices in that staff. Note that you could also add a green shared indication separately to the bass staff, separately changing its voice, volume and pan to be the same as the black and red notes in the bass system.

If you need to add another voice (like a solo voice) to one or both of those staffs you can use the blue note, and give it a different voice from the S,A,T,B. Sometimes you can't add a separate staff for the solo voice if you are limited to "Staffs per system" (e.g. 3 in SSX2 Songbook Edition).

I use these tricks to make part-dominant recordings for a SATB choir, so sections can hear (learn) their part along with but louder than the other sections (and in stereo with the dominant part on one side). The instrument, volume and pan of the green notes would then be set to match the instrument, volume and pan of the dominant part you are recording. I usually set the volume and pan far right for the dominant part, the pan for the other parts to far left, and the volume for the other parts somewhere between 55 and 80.
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